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"The real problem was being able to stick it out, to sit in an office under the orders of a wee man in a dark gray suit and look out of the window and recall the bush country, the waving palms, the smell of sweat and cordite, the grunts of the men hauling jeeps over the river crossings, the copper-tasting fears just before the attack, and the wild, cruel joy of being alive afterward. To remember, and then go back to the ledgers and the commuter train, that was impossible. He knew he would eat his heart out if it ever came to that." - "The Dogs of War" by Frederick Forsyth |
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As far as modern boxing being boring, there are some extremely talented boxers that are quite exciting to watch. Gennady Golovkin, Sergay Kovalev, Canelo, Vasyl Lomachenko, Terrence Crawford - all put on some very entertaining fights. Golovkin has what could be the best Ko percentage in history right now. Dude just destroys people. |
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It comes down to opinion and what you like, I can't say you're wrong because it's a matter of preference.
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"The real problem was being able to stick it out, to sit in an office under the orders of a wee man in a dark gray suit and look out of the window and recall the bush country, the waving palms, the smell of sweat and cordite, the grunts of the men hauling jeeps over the river crossings, the copper-tasting fears just before the attack, and the wild, cruel joy of being alive afterward. To remember, and then go back to the ledgers and the commuter train, that was impossible. He knew he would eat his heart out if it ever came to that." - "The Dogs of War" by Frederick Forsyth |
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Boxing in many respects is like horse racing, it belongs to another era.
Boxing still has its fans, and probably always will, but as time goes on I expect you'll see its popularity diminish while MMA becomes the predominant combative sport. Again, the demographics aren't in boxing's favor. If you look at the overall fan base of boxing vs MMA, boxing fans seem to trend older and more traditional (and, because they're getting older they are also in decline) while MMA attracts a much younger crowd. Time will tell. Other than Mayweather, I can't think of any other boxer whose name really rings a bell with me. And even though I don't really follow the sport, I know a lot of the fighters in the MMA/UFC fold.
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It looks like this fight just might happen after all:
http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/mo...icle-1.2972132
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Looking at Golovkin I think we might have a new greatest coming on.
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Floyd has officially un-retired in a bid to turn up the heat on McGreggor. Apparently he is pushing for a June fight.
Until they're in the ring, I won't believe it's happening. |
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If "UFC fighters" only focused on working on boxing; then they'd be "boxers". Fighters who train all ranges of unarmed fighting, are arguably very talented if they stick with it. If you make the mistake of believing that training a single skill set is superior to training all ranges, ya better open your eyes. Put an MMA fighter in a ring, playing by the limited rules of Boxing; ie, only being able to bang with punches, the boxer win's because of the limited rules. Remove the rules, allow all ranges of fighting, then put a boxer in a cage; the most boxers don't last a minute. Couture and Tony fight is a good example of that. The embarrassing thing is believing that possessing only a single skillset is somehow superior.
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For sure. Can't wait to see the fight tomorrow night.
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I've trained BJJ with several pro mma fighters, there is NO DOUBT if they could box professionally they would do so in an instant.
I believe that's the point he was making, no way they'd keep fighting while living at moms, teaching mma and buying used cars if they could get boxing paychecks. No mma fighter would turn down compensation at anywhere near equivalent skill/level of a boxer. Just compare a boxing champions per fight take to any multi time champ in ufc, it's not even in the same galaxy...like 10 to 100x difference. Floyd spends money like a goof and apparently got scammed out of a bunch lately that he'd like to replace with this easy appearance. He'll WALK through Conner in a boxing match, likely take it easy as he knows folks will want entertainment and stretch it out on purpose. |
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I live in south east Texas. Last time I even heard someone talk about boxing was the Paquiao v Mayweather fight. I couldnt say one way or another on the other countries though. All I know is they like soccer everywhere Ive been. Last edited by havok88; 20 March 2017 at 18:55. |
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Probably like singing, acting etc. were decades ago. Once the MMA fighters start to organize and become popular enough to hurt the bottom line if they walk, then the money will come.
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The UFC is set up almost like the old movie studios from the 40s, they "discover" and nurture talent, tightly control who they fight, and when, and make the ultimate decisions as to who will compete for the title.
It might be tougher for fighters to break away than people think. Stock Car drivers tried to unionize back in the 60s, when NASCAR was under the total control and iron grip of Bill France, and in the end NASCAR, which is wholly owned by the France family, only became stronger. Drivers started to make more over time in purses and through endorsements, but all the rules and corporate governance of that particular racing body is controlled by one family. Not unlike FI is under Bernie Ecclestone.
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One step closer to reality:
Conor McGregor Signs Floyd Mayweather Contract, Awaits Response in 'Coming Days' http://http://bleacherreport.com/art...aign=editorial
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I hope AFN airs this. Not interested in paying for a 30 second match, but I do want to see the K.O.
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