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Old 15 June 2017, 19:12
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Ok ya mugs, Camp Mackall old and new. For memory sakes...yes, I was the "old"..lol

What a difference a few decades makes...
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Old 15 June 2017, 19:37
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Glebo put me through the Q course. Thanks for posting, brother.

Am I just getting old and that's why I recall the (unheated) tar paper shacks being reddish brown rather than black as in the photos?
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Old 15 June 2017, 20:12
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In the old picture, our Phase 1 Team was in the last row, in the far right shack. That was 1977. Our team nickname was the 'Whiskies'; because 12 of the 15 member's last name began with a 'W'. We were also first in a long time to not lose a single member in Pre-Phase or Phase 1. We lost three or four to recycle Phase 2; but all of us eventually graduated.

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Old 15 June 2017, 20:23
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Are you out here for the SFA convention?
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Old 15 June 2017, 21:09
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Are you out here for the SFA convention?
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Old 15 June 2017, 22:55
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Best years of my SF career were at CMK. Awesome place to work.
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Old 16 June 2017, 05:47
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Glebo put me through the Q course. Thanks for posting, brother.

Am I just getting old and that's why I recall the (unheated) tar paper shacks being reddish brown rather than black as in the photos?
I think they were black tar paper. I was probably to smoked by Bad Bob and his crew to remember... That was in Jul 82.

I have some more I'll convert and put up over the weekend.

I went to the SFA Convention reception, but other than that, gotta work, so no more events...
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Old 16 June 2017, 06:46
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Jimbo Blakeslee was my TAC. Old, Black Tar Paper.
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Old 16 June 2017, 07:19
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Maybe it was either we were getting smoked too much or just too dark outside to properly discern the color. Of course, my memory could be fading as well.

I was after all in the last hard class hahah
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Old 16 June 2017, 07:45
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Nasty Nick today.http://www.paraglideonline.net/photo...304269901/PH/1
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Old 16 June 2017, 07:53
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The OASIS guys are staying with me while the convention is going on.
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Wish we could have worn helmets or had padding on the logs.

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Old 16 June 2017, 15:52
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Old 16 June 2017, 18:24
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I have fond memories of Camp MacKall of old at least circa late 80's/early 90's. Certainly not as old as some members here.

I remember the tar shacks as the building where people would go to during SFAS and not come back...at least for that class. I wanted nothing to do with the tar shacks as that was where the quitters went to VW. Quitting was not an option so only saw the tar shacks in passing as we occasionally walked by them. It wasn't until later when I was on a team that I got to set foot in them as we used them to plan TNG ops.

I can empathize with some of the old timers reflecting on the changes CMK has gotten over the years. The million dollar shitter from 1989 is no longer there. I remembered thinking what a waste of million bucks, it doesn't even have hot water in the winter time. The young dudes and dudettes (cross thread points) going through now will say the same thing we're saying now, 20 years down the road.

My main beef with the expansion of the footprint is the challenges to get TNG areas in that area. You use to be able to go down to the range shack, talk to O.C. and secure a TNG area, drop off a case of beer when you were done and let them know the next time you planned to come through.
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Old 16 June 2017, 19:45
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Great point of challenging the tng areas. Now ya got Psyclops and Cilly Affairs trouncing all over the place. Along with Freedom village and what not scattered abt the tng area.

Used to be just SF guys, now ya almost trip over people out there... They are expanding to Hoffman though, where the "star" land nav is. Also the northern tng area at Bragg, just north of Manchester rd...
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Old 16 June 2017, 19:47
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I recollect the classroom in 1970 with a nice toasty oil? heater and the closer you sat the more tired you become. But it was just a matter of time before the instructor would sail a chair across the room at you to get your attention.

Then the cool crappers we had. A few times I volunteered to be the burner guy especially when it got freezing out. Better to smell like crap from burning poo with diesel than to freeze standing in line for dinner.

It does look like a world class training facility now. Thanks for posting the pictures for old timers to be able to see the changes over the years.
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Old 17 June 2017, 08:20
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Some more

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Old 17 June 2017, 09:45
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Used to be just SF guys, now ya almost trip over people out there... They are expanding to Hoffman though, where the "star" land nav is. Also the northern tng area at Bragg, just north of Manchester rd...
Everything on Camp Mackall outside of the actual fenced perimeters of the SWC compounds belongs to 18th Abn Corps. Up until several years ago Bragg Range Control left Mackall alone, pretty much ceding the use and control to SWC.

That has changed with the expansion of Bragg (both population and footprint). 18th Abn Corps made it clear they would start utilizing Mackall again.
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Old 17 June 2017, 20:30
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Tar paper in 1975, with plywood on the bed frames.

And we were happy to get it, because that meant we had arrived.

I don't remember too many hot meals, everything was C-Rations with
an occasion LRRP thrown in for variety. And sometimes fresh fruit from the local Sand Hill markets.

We had been selected to be "Green Berets" if we could make it to the finish line, and they would never tell us where the finish line was.

Hell, we would have slept on the asphalt drive or in the sawdust hand to hand pits (or in the tunnels of what would later become the "Nasty Nick").

There are times I wish I had thought ahead to scratch my name on those tar paper shacks so I could go back later as an A Team commander and say "Here I was." Others could have done the same.

But there are many more than me, and better men than me, whose name would have been erased when those tar paper shacks came down.

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