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Old 8 December 2003, 16:08
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Have we worked this to death?
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Old 8 December 2003, 16:21
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:00
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:03
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Sneaky:
Do you think that the regular US Armed Services can be used in any efficient way to directly combat terrorism?
I'd love to hear your opinions on what the US should be doing in terms of stopping terrorism.

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Old 8 December 2003, 18:18
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Yes, I think regular forces of the calibre we have can assist in combating terrorism. Not stopping, because you can never really stop it.

I'm not going to really go into specifics because we don't know who is reading this board.

Troops will perform as they are trained to do, both in quality and function. We have learned that there is a place for light armor in MOUT, something I wouldn't have really thought of back in my day - for example. But how many times does an ACR practice supporting MOUT ops during training? I don't know. I know we never had them where I was.

I think the mistake we tend to make is on Reaper's DIME. You have to address them all at the same time and as ongoing missions. Its hard, but it can be done. One problem is that the military is much more efficient than the other gov organizations. Time and time again, we win the major combat op, then have to wait for the others to catch up. I'm not sure we've learned to plan for the peace/guerrilla warfare prevention phase.
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:18
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Have we worked this to death?
I've been reading this and thinking about what everyone has posted. Now granted, my education and experience in this area puts me on a Kindergarten level, but I have to ask: why is it so important to differentiate between terrorists and guerillas?
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:20
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I've been reading this and thinking about what everyone has posted. Now granted, my education and experience in this area puts me on a Kindergarten level, but I have to ask: why is it so important to differentiate between terrorists and guerillas?
Policy for one. We have declared war on terrorism globally, we have not on guerrillas.
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:33
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Policy for one. We have declared war on terrorism globally, we have not on guerrillas.
So we don't negotiate with terrorists, but we do with guerrillas?

I read a quote this morning from a Colonel in Iraq: "With a heavy dose of fear and violence, and a lot of money for projects, I think we can convince these people that we are here to help them."

It reminded me of this thread.
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Old 8 December 2003, 18:38
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We'll negotiate with anybody if they have something we want or some way to get us to the table. :D
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Old 8 December 2003, 19:12
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Fear and violence won't work. Just make everything better than it was under Saddam and people will probably come around.

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Old 8 December 2003, 19:14
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Fear and violence won't work. Just make everything better than it was under Saddam and people will probably come around.

My two pennies,

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A Solid, my child, you've never truly had your ass whipped. Fear and violence always work - the problem is, they're usually not sustainable. And they fo against the Constitution :D
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Old 8 December 2003, 19:26
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Old 8 December 2003, 23:18
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Fear and violence always work
And sometimes in interesting ways. Take the cordon and search, for example. It has been pointed to lately as a heavy-handed tactic in Iraq. On its face it has a very obvious intent, but HFCUI showed me the way.

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Old 9 December 2003, 11:39
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I've been reading this and thinking about what everyone has posted. Now granted, my education and experience in this area puts me on a Kindergarten level, but I have to ask: why is it so important to differentiate between terrorists and guerillas?
The biggest thing is that terrorists are NOT protected by the Accords and guerrillas are protected. To accord military status to a bunch of retarded developed morons with guns and bombs is ridiculous. To even consider it would hamper the war on terrorism. No matter what the liberals say, terrorists are thugs and not a matter of “A terrorist to one group is a freedom fighter to another.” That is again the liberal whining of a “guilty rich idiot”.

As far as fear, fear of counter attack and NOT retribution is the fear being stated. To allow a sanctuary to the terrorists by not actively patrolling and attacking suspected sanctuaries is a fool’s tactic. Fear, and lowering the cost effectiveness of an attack on our forces is one of the best ways of slowing that nonsense down. However, the idiot with a bomb strapped to his chest is unstoppable and that is why the Palestinians use it so much.

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Old 9 December 2003, 11:43
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It's our duty to attack them, in my eyes...

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Old 10 December 2003, 12:42
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I was reading about the interactions between terrorists, guerrillas and the general population, when I came across this article:

GUERRILLA WARFARE: WHEN TAKING CARE OF YOUR MEN LEADS TO WAR CRIMES
http://www.usafa.af.mil/jscope/JSCOPE97/Kellogg97.htm

Does Kellogg have a valid thesis?
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