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Old 3 June 2019, 17:16
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The guy who designed the P7 designed the USP.
That is like saying the guy who designed the Porsche later got hired by Honda to design the Odyssey mini-van.
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Old 14 June 2019, 10:07
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Well, could just not shoot well with it, get used to it. So traded it in for another Glock 21 and some ammo.
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Well, could just not shoot well with it, get used to it. So traded it in for another Glock 21 and some ammo.
You went from a Omega to a Casio?
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Old 14 June 2019, 20:13
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You went from a Omega to a Casio?
Donít fret, I still have my HK P7M8s.
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Donít fret, I still have my HK P7M8s.
You can still be saved.
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Old 17 June 2019, 10:33
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Will HK survive their current financial woes?
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Old 17 June 2019, 10:34
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P7 - the Ferraris of Handguns.
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Old 17 June 2019, 10:39
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P7 - the Ferris Bueller of Handguns.
Fixed it for you (danged autocorrect).

Actually I really like the P7 series.
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Will HK survive their current financial woes?
HK USA needs to embrace the civilian market. And make shit people want. Keep the MSRP half-ass decent I'd buy a MP7 pistol with a brace or a 416 upper that is around $1k. Stubborn Germans think their reputation and .Mil contracts will keep them afloat without a good chunk of civilian sales they are in for hard times IMO.
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Old 19 June 2019, 08:49
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HK USA needs to embrace the civilian market. And make shit people want. Keep the MSRP half-ass decent I'd buy a MP7 pistol with a brace or a 416 upper that is around $1k. Stubborn Germans think their reputation and .Mil contracts will keep them afloat without a good chunk of civilian sales they are in for hard times IMO.
HK 2017: We refuse to sell to Israel and a bunch of other countries to include all of Africa.

HK 2019: WTF we broke?!

"The company has pledged no longer to sell arms into warzones or to countries that violate corruption and democracy standards, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, or any African countries."
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Old 19 June 2019, 15:28
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HK 2017: We refuse to sell to Israel and a bunch of other countries to include all of Africa.

HK 2019: WTF we broke?!

"The company has pledged no longer to sell arms into warzones or to countries that violate corruption and democracy standards, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, or any African countries."

Why are they selling in the US?
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Old 19 June 2019, 15:33
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HK 2017: We refuse to sell to Israel and a bunch of other countries to include all of Africa.

HK 2019: WTF we broke?!

"The company has pledged no longer to sell arms into warzones or to countries that violate corruption and democracy standards, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, or any African countries."
That seems responsible to me. If I was a gun manufacturer, I would be very selective in to as what nations/regimes I would sell my products to.
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That seems responsible to me. If I was a gun manufacturer, I would be very selective in to as what nations/regimes I would sell my products to.
Not me, as long as the checks don't bounce we are good.
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Old 22 June 2019, 11:34
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"The company has pledged no longer to sell arms into warzones or to countries that violate corruption and democracy standards, including Saudi Arabia, Israel, Egypt, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey, Malaysia, Indonesia, or any African countries."
Pretty much rules out your entire customer base.

That's like refusing to sell crack to crack addicts...
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Old 22 June 2019, 19:06
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If they want to take a stand like that (which I agree with), they better at least take another look at their ridiculous stance re: American civilian gun market. I'm pretty sure their bottom line would demand that. However, I'm not going to hold my breath. I'm sure they would start re-selling to those despot countries before they'd ever make a civvie MP7 for the US market or anything else.
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Old 22 June 2019, 19:27
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P7 - the Ferraris of Handguns.
You mean expensive, finicky and owned mostly by old assholes who never use them, just stand there and wipe them with a diaper? S/F....Ken M
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Old 22 June 2019, 21:05
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You mean expensive, finicky and owned mostly by old assholes who never use them, just stand there and wipe them with a diaper? S/F....Ken M
I shoot mine all the time. I buy guns to shoot not look at.
That'd be like getting a Hooker to talk to.
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Old 22 June 2019, 23:25
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You mean people buy guns just to look at? That is just wrong. Each one has a specific purpose.
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Old 23 June 2019, 18:07
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You mean people buy guns just to look at? That is just wrong. Each one has a specific purpose.
It's usually the same folks that worry about holster wear. Then go out and get Battle Worn Cerakote done.
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Old 1 July 2019, 17:56
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I have a RH Raven Concealment Systems kydex holster for my USP. It's advertised as a appendix carry but the way it's designed it seems to work fine as a regular IWB as well.

Brand new. Nice holster, but I never use it. Free to a good home if anyone wants it.
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