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Old 11 March 2007, 15:49
zebra305 zebra305 is offline
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Agree 100 percent. I'm a GS FedCop now. Getting in for me was easy at an entry level (GS-5) job because my resume had all the right 'buzzzzz's'. Getting promoted took several tries until I figured out how to use the right wording, even if it sounded stupid and assinine. I cut and pasted, even resisting the temptation to correct grammatical errors (the first time I applied, I just used buzzwords and changed grammatical mistakes...WRONG). If you cut and paste, do it exactly as the thing reads. Misspellings and all.....because if the words are mispelled in the KSAs, chances are very high they will be loaded into the computer search program the same way.

Also, depending on the job, if you are being 'backgrounded', you made the cut and are being looked at; or, at least, your resume made it through the computer and is now sitting on someones desk, who may, or may not, have a clue about what it is he/she is hiring for. They may be an "Operations Specialist" whose job it is to cull through the resumes and contact the potential employees, do the backgrounds, etc. In our agency, it's a former officer who was a Lt, so he knows what to look for and how to do it. In others...that may not be the case.

Since I'm the guy that does the backgrounds for us, I know who is coming or who they are looking at. That having also been said, I've given thumbs down to folks on the background, who were hired regardless.

You are welcome to PM for more detail if you like. Hope that information isn't redundant and proves useful.

Good luck!
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Old 11 March 2007, 17:08
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I know this isn't true for all GS jobs. I was lucky to see the process for hiring a civilian for an instructor job in SWC, GS position. I always heard about the good ole boy system. Not so true. When it finally came down to the final candidates for the interview. Members of that committee were on the interview board.
They grilled them on their knowledge of the subject matter they were applying to teach. Entire interview was based on a point system. Good ole Boy system got a few to the interview stage. Very obvious bye the people who showed up. But it didn't matter who you once were. Best man got the job based on his score and skills. Imagine that, I was impressed.
One former CSMG was asked what are the three primary target indicators? He started babbling away about ANOC/O&I merging as one course for 15 minutes. Everyone just sat there with their mouth hanging open.
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Old 11 March 2007, 20:28
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I know this isn't true for all GS jobs. I was lucky to see the process for hiring a civilian for an instructor job in SWC, GS position. I always heard about the good ole boy system. Not so true. When it finally came down to the final candidates for the interview. Members of that committee were on the interview board.
They grilled them on their knowledge of the subject matter they were applying to teach. Entire interview was based on a point system. Good ole Boy system got a few to the interview stage. Very obvious bye the people who showed up. But it didn't matter who you once were. Best man got the job based on his score and skills. Imagine that, I was impressed.
One former CSMG was asked what are the three primary target indicators? He started babbling away about ANOC/O&I merging as one course for 15 minutes. Everyone just sat there with their mouth hanging open.
I'm gratified to hear that SWCS does it professionally. In the AMEDD, once they eliminate the stopper list because of typos, they tear apart the other resumes because they "just don't seem to fit what we were looking for" and then hire the guy/gal they wanted in the first place. It's the most corrupt system I've ever seen and they should charge them all under the RICO Statute (wow, I hope I didn't sound bitter).
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Old 12 March 2007, 19:18
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It took over 18 months and I had some outstanding credentials for either FEMA/DOD etc. You are right about KSAs; I got to the point where I would cut&paste the KSA and use it in a sentence. Most limiting handicap I had was clearance had expired. Got on with DOD after a while due to my unque experience and skill sets. Keep up the fight!!!!
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