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Old 6 November 2010, 03:11
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I applied to 5 jobs, had 3 interviews, and accepted one. It is all about the keywords and how you use them to frame your experiences, among other things. I also think it takes a little bit of luck coupled with the right timing and an HR Specialist who actually looks at your resume.

I have a book that was recommended to me by someone already in the Federal system. It explained the Federal resume & KSA requirements and I found it very helpful, for the most part. If you are interested in applying for other Federal jobs, I would be happy to pass it your way for some "light" reading. I am in Columbus and could get it to you...

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Old 6 November 2010, 08:59
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Ten Steps to a Federal Job, Kathryn Troutman. It also includes a CD with templates for both resumes and KSAs. In addition, she has written several other helpful books, but for me, this one worked just fine.

YMMV.

I also found http://www.federalsoup.com/ to be helpful. Like most sites, though, you sometimes have to sort through the BS to get the answers or information that you are looking for.
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Old 6 November 2010, 21:17
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Separated from the military June 2008, applied for a position in September 2008, and have been working in this position since November 2008. All done through USAJOBS, but also through Army Resumix.
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Old 10 November 2010, 01:57
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I was hired through USAJOBS over seven years ago and have hired several people off USAJOBS as well. It works, BUT the caveat is that it's just a front end for [enter agency here] looking for people. It's the individual agencies or their departments that are making the call, therefore...

Some things to consider besides what's been said:

1) HR departments across various agencies vary significantly in competence. At least in my command, the HR folks pre-screen resumes before giving them to the managers actually looking to fill the position. In one instance, they gave me ONE resume. Pissed me and my boss off, so we asked HR to give us ALL of the resumes, even if they didn't "Score" them high enough to be considered based upon keywords. Low and behold, there were more than a few that met the criteria, but for some reason they didn't cut it. We eventually hired off that expanded list, only because we asked for more and didn't let HR dictate the process.

2) Several times, what gets put out on USAJOBS wasn't exactly what the manager looking to fill a position wanted, again, it got tweaked by someone in the middle and a mismatch was created.

3) Some USAJOBS positions are left open for billets where an agency is continually hiring, but may not be at that very moment. So, it goes into a pool with tons of other candidates.

4) Continuously screen USAJOBS for positions that open and close rapidly in the applicable areas as some are only posted on USAJOBS for 1-2 weeks. These are definitely active hiring scenarios and if you're qualified and apply, you stand a good chance of netting an interview if the people on the other end are actually reading applications. Drives me nuts that they leave some of these open for such a short time. Minimum should be a month.

EDIT: Also, one should keep an eye out for programs such as the NAVSEA's Wounded Warrior Program. Don't know how it's implemented at different commands (again, HR shops can vary), but it's another opportunity if you qualify through the program to talk to more people.

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Old 14 November 2010, 06:16
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I thought about starting a new thread but decided against it. Anyone ever used CHART to get a gov job? I went to Fleet and Family and am in the process of overhauling my resume to fill the 7500 word job descriptions to match the OPM guideline Federal Classification standards. It is a real pain in the a$$ ass transferring real life stuff into examples, with proof, to each wicket they are looking for. Any ideas or suggestions? BTW thanks for the previous info USAJOBS resume is being rehashed next.
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Old 15 November 2010, 09:48
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Never got hired via CHART...applied to some. A buddy told me about a friend of his who applied via CHART and never heard anything, until one day he got a call from a confused manager wondering why he didn't show up for his first day of work...
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Old 15 November 2010, 22:44
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CHART sucks.
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Old 15 November 2010, 22:57
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CHART sucks.
Yes it does.

At least the CPOL site (and usajobs for the post part) keeps your status up to date....
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Old 16 November 2010, 15:39
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Yeah that is my impression too, but it seems to have more postings for the area than USAJOBS, could be wrong though.
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Old 17 November 2010, 16:51
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Got the “Eligible - Application Not Referred to Selecting Official” email yesterday for a job I had applied for about a week and a half ago. My resume was great and I nailed the KSA’s. I really thought it was going to go further. Oh well, still waiting to hear on another job I applied for on Monday.
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Old 23 November 2010, 08:35
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In regards to KSA alot of that stuff is first screened by a computer which sniffs out key words. SO when filling out KSA reuse the question in your first line. Example Experience with SOF forces? you might say MY experience with SOF comes from 20 years of military service with xxxxx unit.
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Old 24 November 2010, 16:13
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Just scanned the site ...again for the hundreth time and found a job that I will apply for once the job i just applied for closes- at midnight tonight.

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Old 31 January 2011, 14:49
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I have applied to several DON positions through CHART. Do these guys ever check the applications, or update the applicants? Is there a better way to apply to DON positions? How do you contact a hiring manager for DON positions?
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Old 1 February 2011, 08:51
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Had an application finally make it to the hiring manager. Job closing passed and after not hearing anything for 2 months, I bumped into a an old CSM who knew the hiring manager. He sent the HM an email and asked for the status. HM told him he was going to wait until 18 January before he looked at the resumes. Window closed on 18 Oct 2010. HM waits almost 4 months before even reviewing the resumes? WTF?

I'm convinced that after applying for over 100 jobs from USAJOBs.com, the system is staffed by idiots.
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Old 1 February 2011, 09:11
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I'm convinced that after applying for over 100 jobs from USAJOBs.com, the system is staffed by idiots.
It's tough and I am in similar position that you are in. I have applied to a bunch of jobs also and have learned quite a bit along the way. The biggest thing that people seem to overlook on USAjobs are the closing dates...the unemployment frenzy that exists make people apply to everything they see before they carefully look over the announcements. The problem is that there are thousands of jobs posted on USAjobs that are "open continuous announcements." Make sure you are looking for the jobs that are open for 1 month or less and you may have better luck.

With that being said, there are still some people that are less than satisfactory who operate the system.
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Old 1 February 2011, 12:45
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I have an interview tomorrow with the Government Printing Office. The job announcement closed last Nov 15. So that’s what, two and a half months.
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Old 1 February 2011, 22:25
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I've just applied to a HARD COPY ONLY application through USA jobs. Has anyone ever done this? Is this process faster than online?
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Old 10 February 2011, 10:20
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I've just applied to a HARD COPY ONLY application through USA jobs. Has anyone ever done this? Is this process faster than online?
Jane,

The short answer is no. I have applied in the past through USA Jobs both online and hard copy. The bottom line is with the economy the way that it is, it is still going to take a long time to get hired. Plan for each position to take as little as 6 months and as long as 2 years to get hired, that way when they contact you right away, you are pleasantly surprised.

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Old 12 February 2011, 15:57
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Just received this email response for a USAJOBS posting that I applied for:

Eligible - Application Not Referred to Selecting Official:

Under this section they state "Candidate meets minimum qualification requirements, but is not determined to be among the best qualified and so is not referred for selection consideration."

Seems kinda bass-ackwards to me. Why not just say Ineligible? That's like telling me I have a great face for radio.
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Old 29 April 2011, 13:53
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Here is one for the record books. I applied for a job through USAJOBS with the DoA back in Dec 2010 for a position at Ft. Sill. I got a call two days ago with a job offer. The funny part is that they never gave me an interview, just an offer.
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