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Old 23 November 2003, 23:09
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DEADLINE IRAQ - Uncensored Stories of the War

http://www.cbc.ca/deadlineiraq/

I don't really have an official comment on this documentary other then that its the media's view of the war told by the media. It was worth watching though. The two hour version is on, on Nov 30th.
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Old 23 November 2003, 23:27
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Maybe it is me but I detect a strong hint of anti-Americanism in this. I just read the stories portion of the link and most of them had to do with American mistakes that resulted in civilian deaths.

I wonder if our effort will ever get a fair treatment in the international press? I guess there is a snowballs chance in hell considering we can't even get a fair picture from the US press.
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Old 23 November 2003, 23:45
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Maybe it is me but I detect a strong hint of anti-Americanism in this. I just read the stories portion of the link and most of them had to do with American mistakes that resulted in civilian deaths.

I wonder if our effort will ever get a fair treatment in the international press? I guess there is a snowballs chance in hell considering we can't even get a fair picture from the US press.
I read the same section. Got the same impression. One word - frustrating.
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Old 24 November 2003, 00:39
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The only sources I listen to are people on here and Maj. Bob Bevelacqua.

Everyone's got some hidden agenda and are afraid to be truthful. Blame the administration and policy all you want, but when it gradually errodes the feelings of the public towards the troops then it is counter-productive. (It has not done so yet)

I think the lessons of Vietnam have been helpful in keeping Americans clear in their mind-set of keeping policy and troops seperate. But, the longer the negativity campaign continues, it becomes more likely that people will start associating "troops" with policies they do not agree with.

On that front we are doing very well, for now. The public has shown unwavering support for our troops. It is a concern that if they are inundated with enough crap like that, they might gradually shift their position. A soldier in uniform is a very imposing figure to American citizens. To some, it may soon embody policies that they vehemently disgaree with. I can only hope that, collectively, we will work to keep citizens informed of the seperation of Troop and Policy.

I live in a region that is highly un-impressed with the policies of the current administration. Yet, they are very supportive of the troops. That is healthy democracy. I hope that as the months grind on, that standard is maintained. I see nothing to indicate that slanted reporting like this will have any impact on that... For now.

I guess you have to make a living somehow. Reporters are working very hard to supplant Lawyers as the villians of modern-day society.
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Old 24 November 2003, 10:07
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I watched it last night, in my opinion it was typical leftist CBC tripe. There was some excellent footage of some of the fighting but in general obviously biased and unfair. I'm so happy our taxes pay for that shit.
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Old 24 November 2003, 10:24
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"These are the stories that weren’t told by the media during the Iraq war.
CBC NEWS goes straight to the source, to journalists, camera operators and photographers from news organizations around the world, who reveal the lethal risks they faced,
as well as the untold horrors they witnessed."

I didn't see it, but when you have to actually say that your news story is uncensored and your sources are other reporters, there's a problem. Good ol'CBC.
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Old 24 November 2003, 10:39
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Interviewing reporters as original sources is pretty typical nowadays, wrong, but typical. The CBC is one of the worst perpetrators though, about 50% of their airtime is spent talking to "journalists" about how great they are and how much they know and how they would do it etc. It's pretty sickening.

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Old 24 November 2003, 10:47
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I didn't mind it. I do however watch anything the cbc endorses with a grain of salt. It was more or less a cbc endorsed version of "uncensored videos".
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Old 24 November 2003, 12:28
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Interviewing reporters as original sources is pretty typical nowadays, wrong, but typical. The CBC is one of the worst perpetrators though, about 50% of their airtime is spent talking to "journalists" about how great they are and how much they know and how they would do it etc. It's pretty sickening.
That struck me too, the media like to portray themselves as the true heros of any war.
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Old 24 November 2003, 12:36
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It was biased but it was interesting to hear the opinions of the reporters who were there alongside the troops. I don't always share their opinions but I still want to hear them.

I kinda wonder how long it will take before this "banned footage" makes it onto American TV. It might take a long time since American television seems to be highly censored, even though they believe that it isn't. There really is way more sex and violence on Canadian TV.
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Old 24 November 2003, 12:43
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I watched it last night, in my opinion it was typical leftist CBC tripe. There was some excellent footage of some of the fighting but in general obviously biased and unfair. I'm so happy our taxes pay for that shit.
I watch all news shows with a very critical eye these days. I think we are lucky to have been in a position to realize how biased, and outright untruthful in some cases, a lot of the reporting is. The bulk of the general public doesn't seem to be aware of this yet, and is quite happy to watch the news and believe that it's all truth because the journalists wouldn't lie....they have integrity, right? All they want is to get information out to the public, right? Why would they be biased on way or the other? This is especially true with people of a certain age - I don't think my grandparents ever question what they see on the news. At least some of us know that sometimes things aren't how they are portrayed.
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Old 24 November 2003, 12:46
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Oh yeah, Garrett your avatars are fucking killing me, funniest show on TV in a long time.
That show is awesome! :D I'll be getting the whole series on dvd at some point... Grew up in Nova Scotia and I knew a lot of people who were like those guys...lol
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Old 24 November 2003, 12:52
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My father still calls the CBC the Government Station and therein lies the problem; they're government funded so people see it as more truthful than private news companies. It's "official news". Unfortunately more often than not it's just the CBC furthering the Liberal cause.

Ever watch a CBC "documentary" or "docu-drama"? The PC revisionist bullshit is horrifying.
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Old 24 November 2003, 13:57
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Yeah, I know it's crap. I try to avoid watching anything on CBC. And I definitely don't think it should be govt funded, but that's just my opinion and worth what you paid for it.
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Old 24 November 2003, 15:52
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I figure that if anyone here should have a Trailer Park Boys avatar it's me since I live in a trailer park in the Maritimes. There are a lot of things that have happened in my park over the years that are strait out of the show. I was thinking of writing them up and sending them to the show to see if they'll use them. This list would include:

-One of my friends shooting the other in the ass with a pellet gun while he was bent over picking up his spilt pellets. He then ran home and got his daddy's shotgun and took off down the street to shoot the guy that shot him.

-When I was 11 a Lebanese family lived in the park. Two of the boys and a few of us other kids formed a gang called the "Bum Jews" and we built a shack in the woods that was our little club house. The walls of the shack on the inside were completely covered in pages torn out of porno mags. Outside of the shack we had a back seat out of a van as a couch (I have no idea where it came from) and we'd sit there and light stuff on fire. I didn't even know what a Jew was when I was 11, there aren't many around here.

-The kid next door was a bit weird and in the winter he would tie a big shovel onto his bike (which was one of those big tri-cycles for old people) and he would drive around on the streets all day plowing them.

-At the entrance to the trailer park there is a little brick shack with a cage in the back. Inside the cage is a big tank of gas. For a whole summer two of the locals basically lived in the cage huffing gas all day long. We used to go down to the shack to throw rocks at the cage when they were passed out on the cage.

-I wasn't there, but one of the kids I grew up with was bent over his ATV huffing gas out of the tank and his brother shot him in the ass with an arrow.

-I've gone skunk hunting more then once.

-Until they put in the speed bumps there used to be drag races down the main street of the park.

-There's a sewage lagoon next to the park, pretty well every year someone would fall into it somehow.

-In the sewage lagoon there are tons of condoms and used tampons floating around, people flush them and they end up there. For awhile we went "gator hunting", we would go to the lagoon with our pellet guns and we'd shoot the condoms.

I really do have an endless supply of these stories, I wonder if I could get them onto the show. I'm kinda an SME.
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Old 24 November 2003, 16:01
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You should definately e-mail them, those are freaking hi-larious.

Have you ever rented the DVD and watched with the commentary? Hysterical.
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Old 24 November 2003, 17:06
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I figure that if anyone here should have a Trailer Park Boys avatar it's me since I live in a trailer park in the Maritimes. There are a lot of things that have happened in my park over the years that are strait out of the show. I was thinking of writing them up and sending them to the show to see if they'll use them. This list would include:
Bwah-ha-haaaa! Thanks for the stories....good times, good times. That wouldn't be the trailer park in Bedford, would it?
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Old 24 November 2003, 17:51
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Hilarious.

Definitely send them in.

(Though I didn't like the few eps of Trailer Park Boys I've seen)
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Watched the CBC special for the most part it was a typical CBC production what did surprise me was the footage of a US soilder on a litter he was injured when a Iraqi who was playing dead moved and was getting up and boom the injured guy on the litter got up and shot the Iraqi the guys who were carrying the injured soilder didnt even look .

I also watched the CBC movie about the Halifax explosion now in typical CBC format they had to have a un - wed broad who gets knocked up from fucking a german spy ( the spy turned good guy after killing a MP ) anyways all I could think of is what does a commie bitch getting knocked up and a abortion have to do with the Halifax explosion ??????????
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