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Old 24 January 2011, 19:48
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I did a search and didn't come up with anything significant. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this company. Specifically the job they have posted on their jobs section titled Transportation Officer - Armed. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Old 24 January 2011, 19:57
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G4S USA is/was Wackenhut. Start your search from there and you can probably get a good idea.
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Old 24 January 2011, 20:01
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Hey thanks for the reply. There aren't many other 501st troopers out there. Geronimo!
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Old 26 January 2011, 10:50
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Depending on how you break things down.. G4S is either the largest.. or the second largest provider of security services in the world..

their primary focus in on contract guard services..

but they also offer a number of different products and service areas both internally, and throught subsidiary companies.. (everything from training to investigations to armed escort.. to force protection in austere environments.. to electronic and technical solutions.. etc..)

the original company was formed in the early 1900's (they have morphed several times.. but are over 100 years old at this point..)..

in short.. they are a legitmate company.. with a massive global presence.. and a long standing heritage..

how good an individual job is.. really "depends" on what position you are talking about.. and what you want out of it..
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Old 26 January 2011, 16:23
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Depending on how you break things down.. G4S is either the largest.. or the second largest provider of security services in the world..

their primary focus in on contract guard services..

but they also offer a number of different products and service areas both internally, and throught subsidiary companies.. (everything from training to investigations to armed escort.. to force protection in austere environments.. to electronic and technical solutions.. etc..)

the original company was formed in the early 1900's (they have morphed several times.. but are over 100 years old at this point..)..

in short.. they are a legitmate company.. with a massive global presence.. and a long standing heritage..

how good an individual job is.. really "depends" on what position you are talking about.. and what you want out of it..
I was working for Armor group ITI when they bought it and claimed at that time to be the largest security company in the world.

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Old 27 January 2011, 08:40
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G4S and Securitas both claim to be the "biggest".. It really depends on how you define things...

revenue... or total number of employees... or largest global footprint.. or total number of offices/branches... etc..

one thing is certain.. they are the only two companies in their primary markets that operate at their level globally.. 3rd, 4th, and 5th place.. fall WAY behind the two pack leaders... companies like Allied Barton, Guardsmark, etc.. that also have national/global presence... dont even get close to either one of them in any of those areas mentioned above.. when other companies get big enough to start encroaching on their turf.. they get bought (like Securitas did to Pinkerton.. and G4S did to Securicor)...
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I worked for G4S in Asia as National Operations Manager in Cambodia, but not for the US end of things. They treated me well, in general. It was interesting taking a 50 percent pay cut to get into management from Force Protection in Kosovo, but like the esteemed mdwest says, it depends on what you want out of it. I got some fantastic experience, and a pretty decent lifestyle.

I'd do it again. MOST of my superiors treated me fairly.
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I worked for G4S in Asia as National Operations Manager in Cambodia, but not for the US end of things. They treated me well, in general. It was interesting taking a 50 percent pay cut to get into management from Force Protection in Kosovo, but like the esteemed mdwest says, it depends on what you want out of it. I got some fantastic experience, and a pretty decent lifestyle.

I'd do it again. MOST of my superiors treated me fairly.
You lucky bastard! I would work in Cambodia for next to nothing if possible.

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OK, I am going to be the dick here. ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?? If you couldnt find info on G4S, you should go back to kindergarten. Google it, see what comes up. Fucking pages of it. If you can't do that simple of research, you are not wanted on my team.

And Blazer, read and search this site. Anything you want has been discussed MILLIONS of times!! Its amazing what some self motivated research does.

You will have to load your own mags if you get a job, you get the point?
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Old 31 January 2011, 14:57
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Thanks for the feedback guys.

VT I see where you're coming from. I wasn't clear enough, I wanted info from a first hand perspective and not info I can find on their website or on news related websites.
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Old 22 March 2011, 14:15
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I did a search and didn't come up with anything significant. I was wondering if anyone had any experience with this company. Specifically the job they have posted on their jobs section titled Transportation Officer - Armed. Thanks in advance for any help.

I never worked for G4S... but... did run into these guys all the time when I worked for EODT on the SBINET project.

Basically... (in AZ anyway) they sit in busses at points along the US / MEX border, and on points along roads leading to the border. Border Patrol brings them groups of illegal aliens. Once your bus is ful, you transport the group to the CBP processing station.

Simple. Decent pay (I think around $22/hr... 4 10 hour shifts per week. OR - thats what it was in 08/09). They seemed to enjoy their jobs. I say jump on it. Good quality kit... issued L3a vests, high quality uniform, S&W M&P .40... I may go apply too.
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Bump; as this is an old thread. Currently in Oregon, got pointed in the direction of G4S. Did the google thing and the search thing on this site. Plenty of info. Lots and lots.

However one thing wasn't quite clear (to me anyway) as noted above G4S is huge--very huge. Often in big companies you can move around, promote, cross-train, etc. However G4S is so big they have gigs in Astan and Iraq and all over the globe...then all the way down to guarding construction sites in the US--like old guy with a flashlight in a Scooby Doo cartoon, joke security.

Do they promote or train from within personnel who may start out with low key CONUS jobs for their openings OCONUS?

I realize nobody has a magic crystal ball about any one particular situation in a corp this big--but with so many guys on this board rubbing up against them or crossing paths (didn't they have BIAP for awhile?) I thought maybe there was an anecdote that might prove informative.
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Old 20 November 2012, 09:26
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it depends on what you do for them, what business unit you work within, who your boss is, how high you want to go, etc..

can you sign on as a dude in a polyester suit with a flashlight and get promoted rapidly into a supervisory position.. sure...

making the leap into actual management is considerably more difficult.. do you have an education? do you bring the additional skills they are looking for? etc..

I have found that most of the management types with the large contract guard agencies ARE NOT career security guys.. some are former cops, some are former soldiers, etc..but most come from management programs in other industries and bring traditional management skills and experience rather than security experience...

once you move into management.. moving further up is relatively easy (assuming you are good at what you do)..

but bridging the gap between guard and manager is difficult....

additionally.. I would advise that almost all of the big, traditional, contract guard companies have gone through a significant amount of restructuing over the past 24 months.. they are trying to get a little more lean, and a little more focused.. management teams are getting compressed.. which means less jobs, more work, and more responsibility for the managers that are left...
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Old 20 November 2012, 10:08
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Makes a lot of sense, I appreciate the insight and get what you're saying. The jump from "operational" to management the way you lay it out makes sense to me, thanks.

I meant a tad more lateral though. For example you start out doing convoy as a window licker for XYZ company. You take their DDM course or PSD 'upgrade' and then you move up to a different job. Or you work FP for SOC and take a tac medical course from them (I think they have one; all this is just meant as an example anyway)and then you're a "team medic."

I kind of mean what I just wrote literally, but also in just more of a generalized sense. In the above cases you weren't moving from security to management, you're inching your way into better gigs (again, meant as rough examples).

So with G4S as the example, as I looked at their *myriad* of vast global contracts I thought; could you go from armed Traditional Security Officer (their title) to one of the armored car jobs to working force pro or convoy on one of their OCONUS gigs.

I agree going from walking the construction site waving a flashlight to scare teenagers to making decisions in the boardroom is about management education--but inching your way laterally toward the better, overseas jobs from the traditional continental ones is what I was wondering if anyone had ever come across in their experience.

Instead of jumping 'little' company to 'little' company to get the gig you want, you try and jump position to position within a big company. I would just find it interesting to learn if someone had started out making ATM pick ups in an armored car for G4S and then ended up mobile security for them OCONUS.

Or maybe that could have happened in 2004 but not in this day and age.
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Old 20 November 2012, 11:59
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I think this would be very difficult to do...

G4S is actually a myriad of companies.. a couple of years ago they started a re-branding process to put G4S and/or WSI into each of these companies names.. but they are still different.. with different executive leadership teams, etc..

While I dont think it would hurt you to have worked for another G4S company when you apply to a new one... my experience is they really dont look to other groups within their conglomerate for recruits..

ITI (training) is a G4S company... Armor Group (PSD, convoys, austere environments, etc..) is a G4S company.. Wackenhut (traditional guard services) is a G4S company.. etc..etc..

all G4S.. but all very different.. and each has its own set of recruiters, hiring managers, etc.. they do not share a centralized HQ.. executives dont tend to move from one organization to another internally, etc..

unlike Securitas.. which has its US HQ co-located with Pinkerton (also a Securitas company) and Paragon (also a Securitas company), etc.... and tends to share resources, personnel, etc..

Securitas however doesnt do any work like you initially described (you arent going to find them in Afghanistan.. or trying to run armed convoys in Libya, etc..).. and to my knowledge doesnt have any desire to enter into those markets..
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stunningly thorough answer. I appreciate the clarity. Thanks for getting me straight.
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I'm sorry for rehashing an old thread. It seems most relevant to my interests, but please correct me as needed.

I am up for an interview for a G4S K9 position in Las Vegas. I'll need to travel for the interview and, if hired, need to move my family down there. So it's a big decision right now and I just want to get a feel for the stability, benefits, and upward mobility.

First, does anyone know how long G4S has had a customs K9 contact in LV?
How long the contract is?
The tendency to keep their current contracts when bidding opens?

Any info re: benefits and promotion potential is appreciated. It's G4S Secure Solutions to be..precise. Thank you.
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Additional question:

Is it the norm to not pay travel expenses for applicant interviews?

The furthest Ive had to travel before for an interview has been 2 hours, but I didn't give this 9 hr drive and hotel stay a second thought. A good friend of mine does HR for a power company and says "she's not impressed" that they wouldn't reimburse for travel expenses.

I, personally, didn't think much of it. Maybe the forum can tell me for sure that it's a bad practice and to watch out, or that its normal and to drive on.
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Is it the norm to not pay travel expenses for applicant interviews?
You're asking the wrong question, especially since in your own words, you gave it no thought and shelled out the bucks to do the interview.

Bottom line, companies will spend those resources necessary for attracting the talent they require. And not a penny more.

This doesn't make them good or bad companies. Just, companies.

Your friend being impressed with them or not will not likely give them any lost sleep....
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