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They are mentioned in this book. It's a outstanding book by the way.


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Almost as good as Soviet Naval Infantry.
i hope you're joking.
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Old 30 July 2015, 22:09
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Old 30 July 2015, 22:18
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i hope you're joking.
They were good from 1943 on. Before that cannon fodder.
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Except the USMC wasn't almost as good. Soviet Naval Infantry isn't and never was on par with them.
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Old 30 July 2015, 22:24
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Except the USMC wasn't almost as good. Soviet Naval Infantry isn't and never was on par with them.
Agreed. The Finns dealt them quite a few defeats. The Nazis as well at Sevastopol.
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Old 30 July 2015, 22:28
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1st Fallshirmjager Division, Operation Granite, the seizure of Dutch Fortress Eben-Emael in May 10, 1940

2nd Fallshirmjager Division, Operation Eiche, the rescue of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini on September 12, 1943
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Agreed. The Finns dealt them quite a few defeats. The Nazis as well at Sevastopol.
So your point in making the comparison was what?
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Why is the 82nd Airborne not an "elite" unit? The 101st was during that time but not the 82nd? I'm not disagreeing with anybody, I'm just interested to see the opinions.
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Old 31 July 2015, 05:27
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The entire US Parachute force was elite in that it was specially selected and trained- its kind of amazing that we managed to field a force of 13 Parachute Infantry Regiments (501, 502, 503, 504, 505, 506, 507, 508, 511, 513, 515, 517, 541) and an additional 5 separate battalions from nothing in less than 5 years.
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So your point in making the comparison was what?
Because they had a lot of success as well from 1943 onwards. Their Naval Scouts led by Viktor Leonov was legendary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Leonov
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Why is the 82nd Airborne not an "elite" unit? The 101st was during that time but not the 82nd? I'm not disagreeing with anybody, I'm just interested to see the opinions.
I just named a few units. Not all of them. Here are some more.

1. Hermann Goring Division
2. Das Reich
3. Totenkopf
4. 5th Guards Tank Corp
5. Soviet Red Army Scouts
6. 502nd SS Jäger Battalion
7. U.S. 4th Armored division
8. U.S. 2nd Armored division
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1st Fallshirmjager Division, Operation Granite, the seizure of Dutch Fortress Eben-Emael in May 10, 1940

2nd Fallshirmjager Division, Operation Eiche, the rescue of Italian dictator Benito Mussolini on September 12, 1943
I bought books about those specific missions. Those guys were sharp.
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Panzergrenadier division Grossdeutschland was considered an elite unit within the Wehrmacht. It received first production of new gear and was run ragged as a "fire brigade" on the Eastern Front trying to stop the Soviet horde. S/F.....Ken M
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Because they had a lot of success as well from 1943 onwards. Their Naval Scouts led by Viktor Leonov was legendary.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Leonov
Apples and bowling balls.

You asked a question about units of any size, have offered your opinion up to an including several division size units, but make a disparaging comment when a corps level suggestion is made. Why is that?

As disjointed as your comparison is, it appears to be the only suggestion where you have offered such.
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Apples and bowling balls.

You asked a question about units of any size, have offered your opinion up to an including several division size units, but make a disparaging comment when a corps level suggestion is made. Why is that?

As disjointed as your comparison is, it appears to be the only suggestion where you have offered such.
The Marine Corps had over half a million men during WW2. That's a lot of men. A typical division had what 12,000 to 20,000 depending on the nation. My father was/is a Marine. My cousin a Force Recon Marine so I am aware of how you guys think. I was just shocked you suggested the entire Marine Corps was elite. I meant nothing disrespectful by my remarks.
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Old 31 July 2015, 08:25
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The Marine Corps had over half a million men during WW2. That's a lot of men. A typical division had what 12,000 to 20,000 depending on the nation. My father was/is a Marine. My cousin a Force Recon Marine so I am aware of how you guys think. I was just shocked you suggested the entire Marine Corps was elite. I meant nothing disrespectful by my remarks.
Your question was at any size...

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Name any elite units that performed with distinction in any theatre and from any nation. They can be of any size.
I'm not comparing a corps to smaller, specialized units like Raiders or SAS, but as a large combined arms corps they performed admirably in the pacific (considering the nature of the objectives they were given).
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Old 31 July 2015, 08:27
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I'm not comparing a corps to smaller, specialized units like Raiders or SAS, but as a large combined arms corps they performed admirably in the pacific (considering the nature of the objectives they were given).
I never said they didn't.
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