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Old 5 June 2006, 04:06
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SERE Instructor/Spec.or Graduate of Level "C"

A Question for the Knowledgeable: How would I go about finding the above candidate to execute a 21 day SERE Level "C" equivalent program training a Remote Area Medic for a High-Risk assignment? Scheduling and compensation negotiable.

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Old 5 June 2006, 07:43
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Don't see it happening.
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Old 5 June 2006, 08:09
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That would be a good program for some security company like Black Water to pick up.


Never-the-less, this subject belongs in the jobs forum.
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Old 5 June 2006, 08:14
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The course title is somewhat hokey but this will probably work for you if your're qualified.

http://gorgrp.com/
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Old 5 June 2006, 08:17
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You're looking for a full-on C level CoC training? Unless you have a clearance and need to know it's probably not going to happen.

If you'd like to PM me some details I can see if I can point you in the right direction...
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Old 5 June 2006, 11:51
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You cant get a true level "C" course as a civilian unless you work for the government. Level C would consist of an RTL which is a whole different nut roll in itself, plus other classes that have classified protions such as resistance to interrogation etc. But while many protions of SERE are classified, many are not, you can get watered down versions from several companies which I can send you if you want but they deal mostly with just hostage survival, rapport building etc... but no one will be able to give you a true level C course
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Old 5 June 2006, 12:58
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I wonder how SERE has changed with the new (well, sorta new) threat?

Seapig, I work for the government, if you have some info on companies or units that could provide training in this relm, I'd appreciate it.
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Old 5 June 2006, 14:11
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The course title is somewhat hokey but this will probably work for you if your're qualified.

http://gorgrp.com/
I like how they use pictures from the SERE course at Mackall
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Old 5 June 2006, 14:15
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I wonder how SERE has changed with the new (well, sorta new) threat?
For SF,
It's wartime and peacetime (PGHD) SERE. Now pipeline guys get both in the Q course. I've been to both and I would have to say PGHD is better suited for SF. But that's my two cents.
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Old 5 June 2006, 14:18
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I like how they use pictures from the SERE course at Mackall
Yes, I noticed that. I guess they got them off the CNN special.

PGHD?
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Old 5 June 2006, 15:52
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For SF,
It's wartime and peacetime (PGHD) SERE. Now pipeline guys get both in the Q course. I've been to both and I would have to say PGHD is better suited for SF. But that's my two cents.
"Captured is captured."

Terminology changes; the situation remains the same."

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I was told that they stopped the PGHD and went to straight SERE again, I was talking to some guys out to 2nd bn swc,, 2 weeks ago when I was visiting
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Yes, I noticed that. I guess they got them off the CNN special.

PGHD?
Peacetime Govt Hostage Detention
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"Captured is captured."

Terminology changes; the situation remains the same."

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Actually there's a difference. Get me off line for this.
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Old 5 June 2006, 16:56
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When I was last involved (2003) the focus was still on the former type of "threat".

If you review how the Afghan Muj treated most of their Soviet prisoners and how AQ in Iraq (and the other Iraqi jihadists) treat their captives, well, its best to just go out fighting than be captured. And if you are captured, follow the example of Fabrizio Quattrocchi ("I'll show you how an Italian dies!").

Captured US personnel are not going to be traded back ala' Jill Carroll. Jihadists may attempt to exploit captured US personnel for propoganda, but sawing your head off with a rusty knife is far more effective propoganda for them than coercing a 'confession' out of you or find out some tidbit of tactical knowledge.

I don't know how you resist when some AQ or Mahdi Army or whatever shitbird is sawing your head off like he would slaughter a halal goat. He's doing that to demonstrate you are a subhuman kufur animal that is his to kill as he wishes. He doesn't want to make you "confess" to germ warfare or being a Yankee air pirate or to make a antiwar statement or even convert to Islam.
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Old 5 June 2006, 17:02
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I was told that they stopped the PGHD and went to straight SERE again, I was talking to some guys out to 2nd bn swc,, 2 weeks ago when I was visiting
I think you're right. I remember our schools NCO talking about combining both into one. I think it should be a stand alone course so guys who already have Wartime won't have to go back though the whole course just to get one new week of training.
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Old 5 June 2006, 17:02
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I like how they use pictures from the SERE course at Mackall
They seem to be claiming that their instructors worked there.

I don't know. They do make a big deal about someone needing to be qualified though:D
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Old 5 June 2006, 17:33
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Actually there's a difference. Get me off line for this.
The only reason the terminology changed is because...

"More people would have failed!"

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Old 5 June 2006, 21:02
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I would be surprised if there was not training available to civilians given the rise in PMCs. After reading the course description and looking at the bios on the site SB posted it sure smells like level C to me.
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Old 22 June 2006, 15:46
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FWIW, I went to AF Survival School in November 2005 which graduates you as SERE-C. I know, the Army calls it "SERE Light", the "Diet Coke of SERE training", etc....

But they had contractors as well as AF SERE Specialists as cadre. AF guys did all the survival stuff and the contractors did E&E and RTL.

They mentioned to us during the course that they were adding a few more days to include captivity under current threats and environment.

I want to say the contract company was called TATE or something. I asked if they did contract work for NGO companies like mine who operate around the globe in every environment and they said yes, obviously tailoring it to an unclass level.
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