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Old 24 February 2020, 03:26
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Extreme Long Range...with a .22 bolt action rifle

I have been tasked with procuring a .22 caliber bolt action rifle and outfitting it for the small-bore portion of an ELR/ULR competition.

Course of fire:
100 yards, 2 rounds at a 6" steel plate
200 yards, 3 rounds at a 9" steel plate
300 yards, 4 rounds at a 12" steel plate
500 yards, 4 rounds at a 15" steel plate
20 minutes from GO!
5 minutes between groups

I have a $1500 budget for the rifle and am considering the .22 versions of the Ruger RPR and the Ruger LRT. I am also considering taking an old military trainer or indoor target rifle and outfitting it with optics.

I am being sent a MOAB 150, an Atlas Bipod, and a Nightforce Actar f1 5.5-25x56 with sun shades for the project.

I reached out to the Remington Custom Shop to see if they are interested in providing a T&E model for the match but their initial response was lukewarm.

If I receive monetary compensation from the ELR team I will divide the amount between SOCNET, the Long Range Reconnaissance Association, and The Paratrooper Association.

Thank y'all in advance for your guidance.
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Old 24 February 2020, 09:49
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I have a Savage BV mark II 22lr with a 10x SWFA SS scope that is sub MOA at 100 yds (haven't tried it farther). Back when my eyes would still allow me to shoot, we would routinely clear a bank of 5 22 empty cases from the backstop crosspiece. This was very dependent on ammo as it definitely preferred Federal Gold Match standard velocity,
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Old 24 February 2020, 09:56
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I assume by .22 that you mean .22LR. I would look around for a used Anschutz or similar small bore rifle. You will also be needing some Eley Tenex ammo.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/847976353

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/854464006

https://eley.co.uk/eley-semi-auto-benchrest-outlaw/
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Old 24 February 2020, 09:57
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I thought the .22 LR round would drop aprox 15" at a 150yds. Sounds like some real tough shooting at 500yds.
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Old 24 February 2020, 12:37
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Sounds like some real tough shooting at 500yds.


Agreed. At that distance you may need some 11C skills.
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Old 24 February 2020, 13:15
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.22-250 or if you must suffer, .22 Hornet would be my options of choice.
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Old 24 February 2020, 13:35
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Kimber makes a heavy barrel precision rifle (Model 82?) with a myriad of reticles as well being capable of receiving a scope. I got mine from CMP for about $500.
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Old 24 February 2020, 16:42
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Wow... layers...
.22 @ 500?

F’ing impressive to say the least. Seeing it is so popular even cooler.

So is it a fair assertion to consider that .22 for distance is good for working on fundamentals, without spending at least a buck per round?
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Assuming known distance range: 22LR will be gimme's at 100 and 200 and 300 won't be hard, that 500yd target will be a PITA if there's much wind.

First thing I'd do is get a good wind meter and an assload of windflags so you can watch your conditions. I had friends who used to shoot a 22LR competition at 100yd shooting aspirin tablets, and they used to go about 50% on calm days.

A used Walther/Anschutz smallbore rifle would be an acceptable place to start, but those are mostly all setup for position shooting. Your idea with a Ruger isn't bad, but putting a good barrel on an old Win M52 or Rem 40X might be better accuracy vs dollar ratio. S/F....Ken M
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All things rimfire.

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Old 24 February 2020, 22:11
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Some offerings in .22LR.


https://www.fieldandstream.com/8-mat...or-any-budget/
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Ruger .22 RPR?
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Old 29 February 2020, 07:28
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I have now graduated from rifle tinker to shooter and was admonished by a friend to quit shopping and get some range time.

I set up a .22 Ruger Precision Rifle in the same configuration as my work rifle (Zeiss scope and Atlas bipod). I bought a discounted .22 RPR display rifle with a Cerakote American Flag finish that looks like the Staue of Liberty vomited freedom all over it.

If it doesn't group, I'm considering a Shilen match barrel and a Timney trigger as upgrades.

Will keep y'all posted if there is interest in this thread, otherwise thank y'all for the advice and information.
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I'm curious on your results, so please keep us posted. Thanks. S/F....Ken M
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Build the rifle around the barrel, then add a good trigger and optics--everything else comes down to slapping rounds, finding out which does the best.

https://www.hawkhillcustom.com/

These guys are solid and do top end work...I've put quite a few rounds down range with these cats.
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I'm curious if your scope has enough elevation to reach 500. I'm too lazy to do the math, but I wonder if you'll need a base with 20 moa or something similar built in.

I've got a CZ 453 that I love. You could build something similar with a 452 and a Manners stock and tuned trigger. There are plenty of guys building tactical trainers out of similar rifles.
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With 100yd zero, using subsonic match ammo, which probably is better as you don't have a super to subsonic transition, you need about 110-120 MOA to get to 500yds with a 100yd zero. A 10mph full value wind drifts the bullet about 110-120 inches. S/F....Ken M
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I'm curious if your scope has enough elevation to reach 500. I'm too lazy to do the math, but I wonder if you'll need a base with 20 moa or something similar built in.
The .22 Ruger Precision Rifle I am working with right now came with a 30 MOA rail and I am waiting for Ivey Rings to arrive. I considered a 150 M.O.A.B. but chose Ivey Rings due to fewer moving parts.

Update:

Unable to locate a Ruger .22 LRT

40 grain CCI Velocitor is the ammo choice

Reached out to two match barrel makers and received a favorable response from the one in Texas, but time constraints may require stock equipment. The first "official" practicing on the competition range is March 10 and 11.
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Agreed. At that distance you may need some 11C skills.
I can give some free IMLC and Plotting Board classes..
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Old 18 March 2020, 10:20
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Still unable to group any brand of ammunition at 100 yards with the RPR.

Shilen contacted me by email this morning that they had a RPR rimfire barrel that is 20" and threaded on the muzzle 1/2-28 in select/match stainless. I asked them to overnight it to me.

Then it will be back to square one testing ammo.
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