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Old 12 January 2019, 10:50
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Over on the Delta Point page, I find the above image.

And that is the only place I see it.

Can they be serious? all that hanging off the proximal end of the slide??
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Old 12 January 2019, 14:21
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Over on the Delta Point page, I find the above image.

And that is the only place I see it.

Can they be serious? all that hanging off the proximal end of the slide??
I think those sights attach to the back and that sight is mounted to a plate that slides into the dove tail for the rear sight. Jusy buy the damn MOS model.
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Old 12 January 2019, 14:43
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Based on observations made recently and my vast amount of limited experience - that don't look right.
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Old 12 January 2019, 14:56
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Based on observations made recently and my vast amount of limited experience - that don't look right.

It is. That would be if you didn't want to buy another gun, or have the slide milled. An adapter that fits in the dovetail - which is why they have that $80 (Yes, try not to choke) DPP Rear Sight Accessory mounted on there too. LOL that it's a DPP - the.largest.red-dot.you.can.buy - thing is huge.

Get an MOS
Get an FN 509 Tactical
Get a SIG
Get a CORE
Mill the Slide.
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Old 12 January 2019, 15:20
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I hear all. . .But damn. They chose to use THAT image on their page? LOL. Customers have sent me Beaucoup photos. None looked like that.

I get it, but wonder why on earth after that nicely priced piece someone would do that?
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Old 13 January 2019, 09:05
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It is. That would be if you didn't want to buy another gun, or have the slide milled. An adapter that fits in the dovetail - which is why they have that $80 (Yes, try not to choke) DPP Rear Sight Accessory mounted on there too. LOL that it's a DPP - the.largest.red-dot.you.can.buy - thing is huge.

Get an MOS
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Get a SIG
Get a CORE
Mill the Slide.
Get New Glasses.
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Old 13 January 2019, 10:20
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Get New Glasses.
That 3 Plane shit ain't better than 1 Plane - especially for civvies in a self defense situation - they (we) will get hemmed up quicker than LE if said bad guy drops whatever weapon as you're focusing on your sharp front sight - assuming you are trained enough to ignore something that may be trying to kill you, and actually have a sharp FS. If not, you have rounds being fired with irons while being threat focused (natural instinct). Do you run irons only, on your home defense AR15?

After evaluating all the pros and cons, this is one of those "new" things that makes sense, to me anyway.

And as is common on the internet - if you were just ribbing me, disregard ^
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Old 12 February 2019, 17:41
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You can check the HK forums also. Saw a pic of a Red Dot on a P7.
The owner should be beat with electrical wire.
Ha ha no argument there.

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RMR just laying around, huh? Must be nice, Mr. Moneybag$
Yeah man...and lighting my cigars with hundreds, you know how it is

It was actually a poor fit for the gun I originally had it on so I thought what the hell. Haven't shot it yet, but I boresighted and did a few dozen presentations shooting the iTarget. Somebody said earlier that the presentation is different, that's definitely true, takes some getting used to. I'm not sure the laser dot is easier to pick up than iron sights, but ask me again in a few years.

The real positive is that it's a lot easier (at least for me) to shoot with both eyes open. Jury's still out, I certainly am not going to make a point of doing this with all my pistols but on this one I think I like it.
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Old 13 February 2019, 09:58
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Ha ha no argument there.



Yeah man...and lighting my cigars with hundreds, you know how it is

It was actually a poor fit for the gun I originally had it on so I thought what the hell. Haven't shot it yet, but I boresighted and did a few dozen presentations shooting the iTarget. Somebody said earlier that the presentation is different, that's definitely true, takes some getting used to. I'm not sure the laser dot is easier to pick up than iron sights, but ask me again in a few years.

The real positive is that it's a lot easier (at least for me) to shoot with both eyes open. Jury's still out, I certainly am not going to make a point of doing this with all my pistols but on this one I think I like it.

Yeah, I'll say this after about a couple months - if you get a brand new pistol (or just use one that you haven't carried 24/7) so you can run an optic, unless it has the same, or really close grip angle as your 24/7 gun, it will take some getting used to (retraining).

I went from a BHP to an FN 509 Tac with the stock installed curved back strap and was like "holy hell this is going to take some time". It pointed high. Then I used what little brain cells I have left, and installed the FN supplied FLAT backstrap... and bingo. Taking away material from the bottom of the backstrap, lowered the muzzle and it pointed the same as the BHP.

Also, if you think about it, after zeroing, if the dot isn't "on" neither are your sights in reality - you just can't tell as easily with irons.

(Caveat - this applies when you zero the dot at the same range as the factory irons that co-witness, which in my case is 15 yards. You literally put the dot so it bisects the front sight when perfectly aligned in the rear notch and just confirm and tweak a smidge).

Even then, 147gr 9mm ballistics only have it 0.5" high at 25, and almost bang on again at 50 (0.2" high) when zeroed at 15 - so I don't think any of that really matters even if you decide to zero at 25 or 50, or can't co-witness. The dot doesn't lie. That's what I've found anyway.
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Old 15 March 2019, 16:06
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Here's the aforementioned Walther with all it's accessories...
Finally got a chance to shoot this today. Dry fire exercises definitely paid off. Still a little bit of dot hunting and a tendency to close my non-dominate eye on initial engagement.
But I was also shooting irons at the session. I need a dedicated range session just for dot practice. I can see this will be very accurate and quick followups with practice.
I'm a convert!

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115gr TSJ American Eagle Syntech
124gr FMJ American Eagle
147gr FMJ Winchester (Train & Defend)
150gr TSJ American Eagle Syntech

For me, followups were quicker with the 150gr Syntech.
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Old 25 April 2019, 03:49
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I have a Glock 34 Gen IV that I put a Trijicon RMR06 series 2 on back in August. (My gun was cut for an optic)

I have about 2000 rounds through it. In general, I found it was fairly easy to get used to the dot, although if shooting support hand only I have to be deliberate in my movements to find the dot in a timely manner. If I rush too much, things get ugly.

One of the ranges I shoot at frequently is an indoor range that has spooky lighting, and I find the RDS to be an advantage in those conditions.

I had an opportunity to shoot an RDS equipped pistol in total darkness wearing NVGs and that was really neat.

I'm classified in that combination in USPSA but not yet in IDPA.

In May I'm going to an RDS pistol class with Modern Samurai Project. I'm looking forward to that.

One of my agencies just allowed the use of RDS on personally owned Glock MOS pistols. The midnight shift Sergeant just started carrying his G19 with a TLR light on it. I think he's using the Safariland 6360RDS holster.
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Old 25 April 2019, 04:05
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...although if shooting support hand only I have to be deliberate in my movements to find the dot in a timely manner. If I rush too much, things get ugly.
I do cheek-on-shoulder, and that seems to make it a bit better. Combined with John Shaw's "shoot one handed like you shake hands" (canted in-board a bit) - and its pretty repeatable. RDS are fricken awesome!
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Old 25 April 2019, 13:45
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This one looks promising. Trijicon SRO
I wonder if it's better for astigmatism? we shall see.
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Old 25 April 2019, 18:36
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It's like they're reaching right into my wallet.
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Old 25 April 2019, 19:24
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I've shot mine quite a bit now. The only dot hunting I'm doing seems to be related to the brightness of the dot. I bought my RMR second hand.

I'm sold.
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Old 26 April 2019, 11:15
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I am becoming more and more comfortable with this concept. I still use the green dot dual illum trijicons due to an astigmatism. I am putting one on an 8-shot revolver that has been hanging around in the safe.
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It's like they're reaching right into my wallet.
FYI: Atlantic Tactical is taking orders for the Glock Gen 5 MOS RMR ready for about $575 I think.
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Old 27 April 2019, 11:06
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This one looks promising. Trijicon SRO
I wonder if it's better for astigmatism? we shall see.
I use the dual illum models (Green, not amber) as it all but eliminates the sparkle from the astigmatism.
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Old 27 April 2019, 14:15
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FYI: Atlantic Tactical is taking orders for the Glock Gen 5 MOS RMR ready for about $575 I think.
My wallet emits a high pitched squealing sound when I walk in that place... I'm probably just going to buy a separate slide.
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FYI: Atlantic Tactical is taking orders for the Glock Gen 5 MOS RMR ready for about $575 I think.
Blue Line pricing beats that by a country mile. Picked up a 19MOS yesterday.
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