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Old 18 June 2017, 13:34
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WTF. How was this dude still an active agent?

Union. You wouldn't believe. Seen dudes far worse come back after a year off while under investigation then get a years back pay plus any possible pro pays.
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Old 18 June 2017, 18:09
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Yep.

The union works wonders for dirty agents, and advises honest agents not to talk to investigators when it would be in their benefit to tell their side of the story.

As far as this guy goes - often times when there are children involved, an ex wife or girlfriend will refuse to press charges or become a hostile witness against the abusive significant other; hard to get child support if daddy is in prison or unable to work a LEO job due to a domestic violence conviction / deferred adjudication.

And how did the guy mistake a pellet pistol for the real thing? Anybody who has ever stared down the business end of a real pistol can tell you there is no mistake seeing a hollowpoint down the barrel of an automatic or in the cylinder as it starts turning...
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Old 19 June 2017, 07:46
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And how did the guy mistake a pellet pistol for the real thing? Anybody who has ever stared down the business end of a real pistol can tell you there is no mistake seeing a hollowpoint down the barrel of an automatic or in the cylinder as it starts turning...
Seriously?
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Old 19 June 2017, 09:56
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And how did the guy mistake a pellet pistol for the real thing? Anybody who has ever stared down the business end of a real pistol can tell you there is no mistake seeing a hollowpoint down the barrel of an automatic or in the cylinder as it starts turning...
I sincerely hope you were being facetious when you made that statement!
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This agent should not have been on the job, crazy that police unions are so strong they defend criminals and keep the apple cart rotten.

If this agent did steal and work with the cartel...wouldn't that be covered up by his buddies/union?
Is there any chance that we'll find out the truth...that he likely deserved what he got.

Guess the only shot is the cartel putting out their side, testament to where we are that many of us will believe the cartel over the union rep.
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Old 20 June 2017, 08:34
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This agent should not have been on the job, crazy that police unions are so strong they defend criminals and keep the apple cart rotten.

If this agent did steal and work with the cartel...wouldn't that be covered up by his buddies/union?
Is there any chance that we'll find out the truth...that he likely deserved what he got.

Guess the only shot is the cartel putting out their side, testament to where we are that many of us will believe the cartel over the union rep.
Not necessarily a cartel action. But, things like this do not happen randomly or by accident. Bad for business, plain and simple.
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Not necessarily a cartel action. But, things like this do not happen randomly or by accident. Bad for business, plain and simple.
Likewise sometimes we give the bad guys too much credit. Not too long ago in my AO, a federal agent got carjacked/kidnapped outside of his hotel and stuffed in the trunk of his car. The speculation was endless as to what he was doing or what he was up to to bring it on himself. It turned out that he was simply an easy and available robbery target to the guys who rolled him up at random. It was exactly what it was, rather than what everyone tried to make it.
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Likewise sometimes we give the bad guys too much credit. Not too long ago in my AO, a federal agent got carjacked/kidnapped outside of his hotel and stuffed in the trunk of his car. The speculation was endless as to what he was doing or what he was up to to bring it on himself. It turned out that he was simply an easy and available robbery target to the guys who rolled him up at random. It was exactly what it was, rather than what everyone tried to make it.
boy i bet his coworkers will never let him live that one down....
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Old 22 June 2017, 17:04
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Likewise sometimes we give the bad guys too much credit. Not too long ago in my AO, a federal agent got carjacked/kidnapped outside of his hotel and stuffed in the trunk of his car. The speculation was endless as to what he was doing or what he was up to to bring it on himself. It turned out that he was simply an easy and available robbery target to the guys who rolled him up at random. It was exactly what it was, rather than what everyone tried to make it.


Absolutely agree with your point but in this case......just doesn't seem random to me. Especially given the history of this particular agent.
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Old 22 June 2017, 19:08
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Absolutely agree with your point but in this case......just doesn't seem random to me. Especially given the history of this particular agent.
Agreed. I don't think this was just "wrong place, wrong time".
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A number of years ago a coworker made a DTO affiliated arrest and shortly there after got word he was 'green lighted'...the geniuses walked into one of our offices asking for him by name...so even when it IS something more they generally aren't always the smartest criminals in the world.

I bet CBP IA was thinking, wow a case with legs! Awww...FBI taking it. Poor 14s...
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