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Old 15 December 2015, 23:33
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Sig P320.

Considering a P320 compact in either .45 or .40 as a carry weapon. Only handgun I've ever owned or liked is a P220, but it's too large for carry in the summer.

Has anyone had experience with these P320s?
What makes it better/worse than the P250?

Please tell me what you think about it if you've had a chance to carry or shoot it.
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Old 16 December 2015, 00:26
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Ergonomically identical to the P250, but has a very good trigger, for a striker-fired gun (vice the also-decent DAO of the P250). IMO, a pretty good gun for the money. I prefer the P320 to the P250, simply due to my trigger preference.
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Old 16 December 2015, 00:35
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I have it in 9mm and plan on getting .45 pieces for it. Love it so far. Lite path IWB on the way. The .40 round does nothing for me. I might reconsider it since so many police departments use it. Easy source of resupply.
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Old 16 December 2015, 10:48
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I have it in 9mm and plan on getting .45 pieces for it. Love it so far. Lite path IWB on the way. The .40 round does nothing for me. I might reconsider it since so many police departments use it. Easy source of resupply.
40 is starting to really fall out of favor with LEA's.As was discussed in another thread glut of them on the market.
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Old 16 December 2015, 10:53
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I should have used a sarcasm emoticon regarding the .40 ammo. I was trolling Massgrunt.
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Old 20 December 2015, 15:59
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I've got 2 of them in .40, I've got no complaints.
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Old 9 August 2017, 09:22
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So, the P320 is not "drop safe." Or maybe it is...or, according to Ron Cohen, "drop" and "safe" are two words that "cannot exist" together...unless they are existing in the previous filings Sig produced to be able to sell the weapon in certain areas...

Once again, Ron Cohen displays the qualities that make him the go-to guy if you want to ruin a firearms company on a condensed timeline.
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Yes, but you can do a voluntary upgrade to make it more "safe".

Been seeing more and more police depts. (Local and Federal), when time to upgrade are dumping Sig and going with Glock. Sig quality as we have discussed here before has really gone down over the last ten years.
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Old 9 August 2017, 10:31
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It's not so much the problem that sours me to Sig Sauer, it's how they responded to the situation. Contrast that with, say, Walther who had a recall on my wife's CCP last year (or earlier in the year, I honestly forget which.) They said, "We identified an issue. Go to this website and we'll send you a call tag to fix your stuff free of charge."

I still like my P-series Legion guns, but I won't be buying anything else from their lineup anytime soon, I don't think. I may get a P220 Legion (or 2 if the 10mm drops) eventually, but those again are basically the older German designs at their core.
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http://www.wmur.com/article/dallas-p...sauer/11652316

Wonder how many more issues will surface when the 101st gets their 320s?
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Wonder how many more issues will surface when the 101st gets their 320s?
Wouldn't the external safety prevent a misfire?
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Wouldn't the external safety prevent a misfire?
Safeties have been know to fail.
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Old 10 August 2017, 13:53
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I found this rather comprehensive. Don't think I would have performed the test as in the first vid. though.
2nd. vid. is pretty thorough.

http://taskandpurpose.com/sigs-p320-...afety-defects/

In a semi related story. I once had my Remington 700 .308 discharge when I released the safety to unchamber a round after hunting. This did happen outdoors prior to entering my cabin and with muzzle pointed skyward. Still, I couldn't freakin believe it as I have done this hundreds of time. WoW ! I couldn't believe I had an ND. What did I do wrong. I know it was extremely cold and wintery. (rain, snow, 15 deg.) did my finger touch the trigger? I was extremely upset and beat myself up for quite sometime. It wasn't till years later that I learned this was an issue with the time proven R 700. I was so relieved to learn that many people including LEO's had experienced the so called "Remington Moment"
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This is blowing up on my social media feed.
Sigs response is poor, I agree.
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This is blowing up on my social media feed.
Sigs response is poor, I agree.
The CEO of Sig doesn't GAF. Company morale is in the toliet and they have a high turnover of people. Disgruntled Sig employee told me their red dots are cheap garbage. He got a box of 100 and was told to find 25 that work for a demo.
Went out the other day shooting my 1990 226 vs a Mk25 and a legion. Guess who didn't have problems?
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Went out the other day shooting my 1990 226 vs a Mk25 and a legion. Guess who didn't have problems?
Did you like the Mk25? I've always wanted one, but only if it performed better than our old issued M11's. I hated those things.

With regards to the P320 safety issue, I've pinged John Hollister about it, but got nothing but crickets.
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Old 11 August 2017, 13:05
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I haven't shot a MK25, but I do own the P226 DA/SA and P229 Legions. My wife bought the P226 SAO Legion. All of them are wonderful; I've had no problems. I'm likely to buy at least one (if not 2) more Legions -- a P220 in .45 and 10mm if the latter comes out. Will I go anywhere near a P320? Not at all likely.
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Did you like the Mk25? I've always wanted one, but only if it performed better than our old issued M11's. I hated those things.

With regards to the P320 safety issue, I've pinged John Hollister about it, but got nothing but crickets.
I didn't like the balance of the MK25. It choked firing mixed ammo.
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I didn't like the balance of the MK25. It choked firing mixed ammo.
I had the same balance issue with the M11. It became very top heavy as rounds were expended.
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I had the same balance issue with the M11. It became very top heavy as rounds were expended.
There is a weight difference between the New Sigs vs the old ones. My friend is not happy with his purchases both had a lot of up and down movement with slide to frame fit. My "Beater" did not have that.

Dude also has a 320 I want to check out and shoot also.
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