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Old 25 November 2011, 22:23
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Anyone had weird experiences with C&P exams?

My husband just had an exam scheduled by the VA regarding his prostate cancer, and when he went, the doctor turned out to be an ob/gyn, and didn't examine him, just asked a couple questions and told him he was done. Then send a med student in to draw blood, and she didn't know how. Someone else had to come do it. It was very odd. Now we're wondering what to expect at his psych eval at the appointment next week at the same place.
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Old 25 November 2011, 23:20
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My husband just had an exam scheduled by the VA regarding his prostate cancer, and when he went, the doctor turned out to be an ob/gyn, and didn't examine him, just asked a couple questions and told him he was done. Then send a med student in to draw blood, and she didn't know how. Someone else had to come do it. It was very odd. Now we're wondering what to expect at his psych eval at the appointment next week at the same place.
Without more information, it would be hard to tell if an adequate exam was performed. With the adoption of Disability Benefit Questionnaires vice the old VA Exam Worksheets, the person conducting the exam doesn't necessarily have to be a specialist in that particular field. If your husband has been receiving current treatment for his claimed condition at the VA and some lab tests were done at the time of the exam, then the answers to the questions he was asked may have been all of the information needed to complete the exam. The examiner can access the VA records to get current treatment information needed for the exam. Just remember, it's all situational. He could've received a bad exam.

I've sees all sorts of bad exams that I've had to send back for clarification of opinions or reexaminations because the worksheets weren't followed.
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Old 25 November 2011, 23:24
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I just went in for a few comp and pen appointments this past week. The doc who was evaluating me for TBI gave me an IQ test. I'm still kinda smart, I just sometimes stand in the middle of a room and forget why I'm there....
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Old 26 November 2011, 00:28
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The doctors that give C&P do not have to be a certain type of doctor. C&P exams just get the required information from a series of questions and tests(enough information for rater to make a decision). A rater will just read off the c&p exam results and assign a rating according to the VA schedule of rating for that particular disability.

Here is a really good link that explains a bit of the rating process from beginning to end.
http://knol.google.com/k/veterans-cl...lf-help-guide#
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Old 26 November 2011, 07:31
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If your husband has been receiving current treatment for his claimed condition at the VA and some lab tests were done at the time of the exam, then the answers to the questions he was asked may have been all of the information needed to complete the exam. The examiner can access the VA records to get current treatment information needed for the exam.
He's never received treatment at the VA, he's always used private docs and submitted his records to the VA claims dept. That's why they keep sending him to C&P exams, trying to dispute his doctor records from his private docs. They already reduced his benefits from 100% to 20% right after he had radiation for his cancer, saying he was now "cured", and ignoring his and his doctors reports of side effects from the radiation. So we have kept submitting new ongoing documentation for the past year and a half of the increasing side-effects he's been having, and they keep "losing" it and re-requesting it, and scheduling new C&P exams that keep ignoring what he tells them, and now after all this, his cancer appears to be back, as his PSA is back at pre-treatment levels just in the past 6 months. And to top it all off, this past time, they didn't send him notice of the exam, and we didn't find out about it until they sent a denial of benefits claiming he missed the appointment without adequate notice, and when they re-opened it and rescheduled it for him (and we got the appointment notice this time), they started the claim date all over instead of going with the original claim date.

Soooo frustrated. And although our VSO is helpful and responsive, they're giving him the runaround as much as they are with us right now.
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Old 26 November 2011, 10:03
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He's never received treatment at the VA, he's always used private docs and submitted his records to the VA claims dept. That's why they keep sending him to C&P exams, trying to dispute his doctor records from his private docs. They already reduced his benefits from 100% to 20% right after he had radiation for his cancer, saying he was now "cured", and ignoring his and his doctors reports of side effects from the radiation. So we have kept submitting new ongoing documentation for the past year and a half of the increasing side-effects he's been having, and they keep "losing" it and re-requesting it, and scheduling new C&P exams that keep ignoring what he tells them, and now after all this, his cancer appears to be back, as his PSA is back at pre-treatment levels just in the past 6 months. And to top it all off, this past time, they didn't send him notice of the exam, and we didn't find out about it until they sent a denial of benefits claiming he missed the appointment without adequate notice, and when they re-opened it and rescheduled it for him (and we got the appointment notice this time), they started the claim date all over instead of going with the original claim date.

Soooo frustrated. And although our VSO is helpful and responsive, they're giving him the runaround as much as they are with us right now.
It's all about the C&P exam. Thats what I was trying to get at.

The information you send in from private doctors is just supplemental to the case. Raters will look at that c&p report first to make the rating before they look at private docs. Everything they need to make a decision to rate is right there on the c&p report.
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Old 26 November 2011, 10:46
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Everything they need to make a decision to rate is right there on the c&p report.
Except when it's not. Last C&P, the doc lied about what he told them, they said HE said he was fine and getting better and experiencing no side effects, when he specifically told them he was getting worse and side effects were worse than ever and affecting his job and home life. Which is why they said he was "cured" after the radiation, and reduced his benefits.
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Old 26 November 2011, 10:48
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What can you do when they lie about what you tell them? You have no way to prove it.
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Old 26 November 2011, 11:06
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Is he getting the same doctor every time? Is there a way he can get a c&p from a different doctor or VA hospital? I don't see why he couldn't. I will shoot you a PM.
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Old 26 November 2011, 11:22
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Is he getting the same doctor every time? Is there a way he can get a c&p from a different doctor or VA hospital? I don't see why he couldn't. I will shoot you a PM.
Was a different doc this past week. The ob/gyn. We'll see what happens. He has to see a psych doc next week, and he's never had a psych eval done before, so he's a bit freaked, since it's one more new thing in this whole long process.
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Old 26 November 2011, 11:24
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I just went in for a few comp and pen appointments this past week. The doc who was evaluating me for TBI gave me an IQ test. I'm still kinda smart, I just sometimes stand in the middle of a room and forget why I'm there....
I know how that goes, especially when I've got bad fibro-fog.
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Old 26 November 2011, 11:27
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Was a different doc this past week. The ob/gyn. We'll see what happens. He has to see a psych doc next week, and he's never had a psych eval done before, so he's a bit freaked, since it's one more new thing in this whole long process.
PM sent.
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Old 26 November 2011, 16:05
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Thank you. I printed out the info and gave it to my husband. It's very helpful to know.
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Old 26 November 2011, 20:50
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I've had a bad exam experience myself. When I got my re-examination, I took a copy of the exam worksheet with me. I had the same doctor as the first time, who had left out information on the original exam. He asked me if I worked for VA. I told him I did and that it should have no bearing on the exam. When he missed things on the checklist, I had him backup and hit the salient points. He was pissed, but he did the exam correctly and put down the answers I gave him instead of some B.S. like he did the first time. The rating decision from that exam was very favorable for me.

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